I used to play poker in free tournaments at bars hosted by a company called The Poker Pub. The following post is a letter of complaint to them which I am forced to post here since, as you will read, they have revoked my ability to post on their message board and they will not respond to my emails.
Here’s the story:
For a period of more than a year, I played in these tournaments, hosted for free at bars and other establishments in the KC area. I won several and, by doing so, racked up points which could, according to The Poker Pub, be turned in for prizes. Just before I moved away from KC, I submitted an order for several prizes. They never came.
On July 3 at 9:47 a.m., I sent the following email:
Guys/Gals,
I placed two orders for Reward prizes last week and, other than automated responses, I haven’t heard anything. Now, I understand that these things take time, but I could not find any information on your web site about how long it should take. And, unfortunately, as I travel around the KC Card Rooms, I hear rumors of PP Players who have been waiting for their prizes for a long, long time (over a year in one case!).
I am moving away from KC on August 1 and, as such, need to get my hands on my prizes before then… so I’m contacting you to see if there’s a chance of that.
Thanks for running a great program – I’ve never had any issue with the services you guys provide (and hope that I won’t now).
They replied at 12:32 that same day:
Sorry for the delay in response. We are currently filling back orders and we should have your order filled by the first week of august.
I waited, but nothing came. So, on Aug 12 at 9:51 p.m., I sent:
In your last email, you told me that I should see my order filled by “the first week of august.”
Can you give me an update? I have already moved and, unless you can ship the products, I am going to have to arrange pick-up from a distance, which is most inconvenient. I’ve emailed you twice since your last response and not heard back from you – please respond.
Their reply came two days later, on Aug 14 at 12:55 p.m.:
Sorry for the delay in response, we have been moving to our new offices. Please send me your mailing address and I will notify you once we ship out our order.
So far, everything seems reasonable. They offered a rational explanation for the delay, apologized, and asked me for the information they needed to make good on their promise. I sent them the info they asked for at 2:10 same afternoon.
Nothing came. At 9:08 a.m. on Nov 4 (three weeks after the last exchange), I sent:
This is getting silly. You’ve told me now, several times, that you will send my prizes to my home if Florida. Do you actually have any intentions of making good on this promise?
I submitted my prize order in late June.
No response. On Nov 11 at 1:15 p.m., I copied and pasted the previous email and added:
Could someone please respond to me?
PLEASE?!?
Nothing. So, on Nov 18, I posted a message detailing this saga to the message board on The Poker Pub’s website. The post was erased that same evening and my posting priveleges were taken away. So, that evening, I sent this message via email:
Here’s how things look from my perspective:
- I play lots of tournaments.
- I earn credits.
- I order prizes.
- You promise to send them.
- You don’t.
- I complain.
- You apologize.
- This goes on for months.
I then post about it on the forums on your website, and the post gets deleted… and my ability to post is revoked. Really? Is that how you’re going to handle my issue?
WILL YOU PLEASE RESPOND TO ME AND TELL ME:
- ARE YOU PLANNING ON SENDING ME THE PRIZES YOU SAID I EARNED?
- IF SO, WHEN?
- AND WHY THE HELL HAS IT TAKEN FIVE MONTHS?
- IF NOT, WHY?
Then, at least, I will know.
Thank you,
-SD
I got a resposne from them on Nov 19 at 5:32 p.m.:
Can you please send us the address again. I am checking the emails and cant seem to find it. I will try to get everything out the beginning of next week and send you the confirmation numbers of how it is sent. As for the posts on the forums, the moderators pull all posts that they deem should be handled by the office.
So, optimistically, I sent my address again.
Nothing.
On Dec 9 at 9:42 a.m., I sent the following:
Please look at the date on this email:
On Nov 19, 2008, at 5:32 PM, The Poker Pub wrote:
Can you please send us the address again. I am checking the emails and cant seem to find it. I will try to get everything out the beginning of next week and send you the confirmation numbers of how it is sent. As for the posts on the forums, the moderators pull all posts that they deem should be handled by the office.
Over three weeks ago, you told me that you would “try to get everything out at the beginning of next week.”
Did you actually mean it?
Did you ever actually intend to send me my prizes?
Word on the “street” is that you guys don’t really send very many people their prizes… I used to think the complaints were just unreasonable people being impatient. But now I know better… It’s simply not important to you to follow through on your promises, is it?
PLEASE respond to this email.
As of today, Dec 23, I’ve heard no response. I called their telephone number (913-575-5840) and left a voicemail asking them to call me back. They have not.
I am posting this now and emailing a link to the post to their address. Here’s hoping they respond.
Of course, if they do respond and make good on their commitments to me, I will add that happy conclusion to the story.